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In answer to my own question about in-depth decision making, I just found this presentation from February 2025 by seven-year GitHub veteran Joel Hawksley: https://hawksley.org/2025/02/10/lessons-from-5-years-of-ui-a...

Relevant quote:

> But beyond accessibility and availability, there is also a growing expectation of GitHub being more app-like.

> The first case of this was when we rebuilt GitHub projects. Customers were asking for features well beyond our existing feature set. More broadly, we are seeing other companies in our space innovate with more app-like experiences.

> Which has led us to adoption React. While we don’t have plans to rewrite GitHub in React, we are building most new experiences in React, especially when they are app-like.

> We made this decision a couple of years ago, and since then we’ve added about 250 React routes that serve about half of the average pages used by a given user in a week.

It then goes on to talk about how mobile is the new baseline and GitHub needed to build interfaces that felt more like mobile apps.

(Personally I think JavaScript-heavy React code is a disaster on mobile since it's so slow to load on the median (Android) device. I guess GitHub's core audience are more likely to have powerful phones?)





For contrast, gitea/forgejo use as little JavaScript as possible, and have been busy removing frontend libraries over the past year or so. For example, jquery was removed in favor of native ES6+.

Let them choke on their "app-like experience", and if you can afford it, switch over to either one. I cannot recommend it enough after using it "in production" daily for more than five years.


I honestly believe that the people involved likely already wanted to move over to React/SPAs for one reason or another, and were mostly just searching for excuses to do so - hence these kind of vague and seemingly disproportional reasons. Mobile over desktop? Whatever app-like means over performance?

Non-technical incentives steering technical decisions is more common than we'd perhaps like to admit.


What's nuts about that presentation is that the github frontend has gone from ~.2 to >2 Million lines of code in the last 5-6 years. 10x the code... to get slower?

That also means a much larger team and great possibilities for good perf reviews, so basically an excellent outcome in a corporate env. People follow incentives.

Who has ever used github on mobile?

I'd like to see their logs about this.


Me, every day.

And what do you achieve by doing that?

Seems a small audience to optimise for.


I file issues, comment on issues, review PRs and increasingly ship code entirely from my phone (thanks to LLM assistance).

All of six of these commits today were created and shipped from my phone while I was out and about on a nice dog walk: https://github.com/simonw/tools/commits/47b07010e3459adb23e1... - now deployed to https://tools.simonwillison.net


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Yeah, it's really sad to be able to walk the dog for an hour a day, check out the local pelicans and simultaneously hack on fun projects on my phone.

Saying your life is about filling PRs on you phone while walking your dog is not the flex you think it is.

These are PRs against my own personal projects. I enjoy hobbies.

Criticizing other people's hobbies isn't the flex you think it is.


Neither one of those comments should have received replies. Just flag and move on.

Everybody enjoy their hobbies captain.

github is a tool used where code is written: on desktop computers

no-one cares about the github mobile experience

microsoft making the windows 8 mistake all over again


I interact with GitHub on my mobile phone every day.

yeah and I bet three people used Windows 8 on tablets too.

I think you are wildly underestimating how common it is for people to use GitHub from a phone.

It's where I interact with notifications about new issues and PRs for one thing. I doubt I'm alone there.


I think you're very much in the minority, but I guess we can't really know.

What does "app-like" even mean? It's a website, not an app. Don't they have a native app for phones?



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