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You guys should just try the game. There have been a few articles that highlight the difficulty of the game but that is only in comparison to modern console games targeted at soda guzzling teens with a one second attention span.

You can grok the basics of the game in an hour or so by following a beginner tutorial. During your first few hours you will fail your first few fortresses.

After your first session, you should have a grasp of things and the next time you should be able to just pick up the game and get back to it.

I think the time suck aspect of this game is exaggerated a lot. You can pause and save the game at any point and get back to it later.

There's one thing that some of the tutorials and introductions don't make clear: you control the fortress, not the individual dwarfs.




"There have been a few articles that highlight the difficulty of the game but that is only in comparison to modern console games targeted at soda guzzling teens with a one second attention span"

No. Your assertion is that the only likely improvement to the UI would be a simple gamepad-mashing interface. DF is difficult even compared to programs with a complicated UI and games with a "normal" steep learning curve. Not wanting to battle through an insane UI does not equate one to a "soda guzzling teen".


No, his assertion wasn't that the only likely improvement to the UI would be a simple gamepad-mashing interface.

And nowhere was is implied that not wanting to battle through an insane UI does not equate one to a "soda guzzling teen".


Seriously. I play and love the grand strategy games Paradox Interactive makes (Crusader Kings, Europa Universalis, Victoria, etc.), and those are some pretty complicated, hard-to-get-into games. And yet even I look at Dwarf Fortress and think "man, that's impossible."


Completely agree. Dwarf Therapist kinda shows how you can improve the UI without dumbing the game in itself down


Well - you CAN order your dwarves around. It's just ludicrously complex.

You can also manipulate world-gen so you have an easier time of it (making the game essentially Harvest Moon with occasional killer fish), but where's the fun in that?


As someone who played far too much emulator Harvest Moon, I think you are selling short the prospect of such a game + occasional killer fish.


Thanks for the encouragement. Think I'll give it a go, or I guess begin my descent in to losing (whereby losing == fun).




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