I think this is probably happening, but also there are just a ton of actual Zionists and Israelis in the tech industry. Unfortunately they visit this site regularly and police it against honest reporting about their crimes.
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Making sweeping claims like this without including any links so we can know what you're talking about serves only to poison HN.
That would suggest they respond to claims with counter arguments, as opposed to what they really do which is flag everything they don’t want people to see
You are fucking nuts. If I say "we should help the Iranian people" because you disagree you call it mis-information and further say it should be illegal? I want your opinion to be heard, of course, but let me tell you right now, you're F-ing nuts.
WTF? You cannot comment like this on HN, no matter who you are replying to or what it's about.
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Do keep in mind that basically every single Israeli goes through military training, which includes training in psychological counter-warfare (hasbara). Even the 'cool' Israelis you know in real life are spies at the beckon-and-call of Israel 24/7.
What I'm trying to say is that this is an intentional part of their strategy. They know what they're doing.
They probably have a small detachment assigned to every popular-ish website. For the long tail, they have bot farms.
You also mostly talk about Israel (only from an Israeli perspective). I thought for sure that you were talking about Zionist brigading, since that's so obvious on this (and most) sites.
What does Zionist actually mean when Israel as a Jewish State has existed for 77 years and seems likely to exist for at least as long. I'm genuinely asking here. People use the word all the time and I just don't understand what they are trying to say.
If you live in the USA you are being incredibly hypocritical as the land was stolen from the Native Americans.
Approximately 900,000 Jews migrated, fled, or were expelled from Muslim-majority countries throughout Africa and Asia in the 20th century, primarily as a consequence of the establishment of the State of Israel. Most migrated to Israel. Do they go back to the Arab countries that kicked them out?
As a person indigenous to the Americas, I know very well that this land was stolen and I fully support the land back movement.
Israel replicated the very worst of the genocide of Indigenous Americans in the modern day and continues to do so. Zionism will fall and Israel will go the way of Nazi Germany.
Since Oct 7 2023 Israel has very effectively destroyed Hamas, Hezbollah, and now Iran. They have an incredibly effective military and are VERY strongly motivated because they know that losing means death. Israel is no more likely to fall than the US gives back all land to the Natives.
The entire world has become aware of the true nature of Zionism. Once the propagandized boomers are gone, so will be Israel. Also, considering that rockets are currently raining down on Israel, I don't know how you can claim that they have effectively beat Iran.
Can you explain to me exactly how you predict Israel will "be gone"? And where will all the current population move to? Why would these countries accept millions of people? I don't think you can actually answer these questions because this is a fantasy.
So I don’t have a dog in this fight but if someone came to my house and tried to kill and evict me and posted up in the living room and had to defend against my attacks to reclaim my living room, the logical solution is for them to leave my living room regardless of how long they’ve been squatting there. No need for anybody to die.
I'm in the US, and the this type of histrionic rhetoric no longer flies with us. It's fully up to the Palestinians on what they do with the Zionists, I support their sovereignty 100%.
"I would replace Israel with Palestine and I would have the current population return to their countries of origin." Is extremely "histrionic". You are actually advocating for a genocide against Israel.
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Even if Israeli Jews whose ancestors once lived in Poland were interested in immigrating to Poland, where 90% of Jews were murdered, Poland has not offered them citizenship. Would you like them to disappear?
Do you apply the same logic to all the immigrants from Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, etc.? Do you categorically oppose all immigration, or only when it's Jewish families?
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