Don't they? I just went to crates.io and picked a random newly updated crate, wh...

koakuma-chan · 2025-09-16T12:34:11 1758026051

It depends on `image` which in turn depends on a number of crates to handle different file types. If you disable all `image` features, it only has like 5 dependencies left.

staminade · 2025-09-16T12:44:34 1758026674

And all those 5 remaining dependencies have lots of dependencies of their own. What's your point?

koakuma-chan · 2025-09-16T12:55:56 1758027356

> What's your point?

Just defending Rust.

> 5 remaining dependencies have lots of dependencies of their own.

Mostly well-known crates like rayon, crossbeam, tracing, etc.

johnisgood · 2025-09-16T14:09:22 1758031762

You cannot defend Rust if this is reality.

Any Rust project I have ever compiled pulled in over 1000 dependencies. Recently it was Zed with its >2000 dependencies.

koakuma-chan · 2025-09-16T14:33:14 1758033194

I think it's justified for Zed. It does a lot of things.

rudedogg · 2025-09-16T16:17:10 1758039430

Zed isn’t special, I doubt Sublime Text has thousands of dependencies. It’s a language/culture problem.

Edit: Ghostty is a good counter-example that is open source. https://github.com/ghostty-org/ghostty/tree/main/pkg

koakuma-chan · 2025-09-16T19:23:06 1758050586

Zed is closer to IntelliJ or VSCode than to Sublime Text.

biggusdickus69 · 2025-09-17T00:38:14 1758069494

In the amount of bloat, yes.

johnisgood · 2025-09-17T15:29:06 1758122946

It is also important to note that this is not specific to Zed. As someone else have mentioned, it is a cultural problem. I picked Zed as an example because that is what I compiled the last time, but it is definitely not limited to Zed. There are many Rust projects that pull in over 1000 dependencies and they do much less than Zed.

koakuma-chan · 2025-09-17T18:12:36 1758132756

Yeah tbh one time I had a Rust job and their back-end had like 700-800 dependencies.