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It's barely star wars. It's a competent spy thriller with star wars paint.

Turns out that makes for pretty good adult oriented star wars.




Tony Gilroy's mentioned a lot of influences on Andor, few if any of which had anything to do with Star Wars. Off the top of my head:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_Shadows

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon_Berlin

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Un_village_fran%C3%A7ais


To add to this, non-exhaustively, from various other places including reddit:

Krennic's meeting on kalkite:

* structured like the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wannsee_Conference

* takes place at the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kehlsteinhaus

the Aldhani heist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1907_Tiflis_bank_robbery

Ferrix: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles

Vel Sartha:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Dugdale

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolours_Price

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction

Kleya Marki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noor_Inayat_Khan

the Dhanis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A1mi_people#Discriminatio...

escape from Narkina 5:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maze_Prison_escape

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauthausen_concentration_camp

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sobibor_uprising

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vrba%E2%80%93Wetzler_report

Rix Road:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymarket_affair

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporals_killings

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shireen_Abu_Akleh#Funeral

Mon Mothma's speech: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Wels#Speech_in_opposition

Ghormans: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Resistance

Ghorman massacre:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1972)

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tlatelolco_massacre

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jallianwala_Bagh_massacre

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabaa_massacre

* and perhaps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silesian_weavers%27_uprising

Obviously the comparisons aren't exact, but it's clear the show had a great many sources of inspiration (or maybe history rhymes as it always has).


In a strange way, that makes it a better fit as a prequel for the original trilogy.

Compared to other Sci Fi movies at the time, Star Wars introduced a grungier, lived in universe where space ships got banged up and dirty, various species hung out in treacherous backwater saloons, and smugglers were just trying to make a living in the shadow of the Empire.

That's the reality Andor is set in, without the Jedi, and you really feels the difficulty of living in that reality without magic powers or a laser sword.


Star Wars is barely Star Wars: it's just Flash Gordon and Dam Busters with Star Wars paint.

You can't escape your influences, and you don't need to.




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