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I don't want to be seen as defending Tesla's overpromising and underdelivering, but everything you mentioned I see on a daily basis from all makes and models of motor vehicles on the roadway. Of course, FSD should be better than humans, but it's somewhat humorous to me that right now it's got the same problems as people.



It’s not humorous it’s expected - when you train your system on data from millions of average drivers, why would you be surprised that it behaves like an average driver?

And the average human driver is terrible at driving


Terrible is subjective.

There's tons of people on the road, so there's plenty of quite bad drivers you'll encounter every day.

But driving is relatively easy. Saying that the average driver is terrible seems like a bit of a stretch.

I'll give you that there's millions of terrible drivers. That doesn't make the average terrible, though.


I agree - I think the average driver is average. Not great, not bad! That's why they're average, right? If the average driver were terrible, then terrible would be average, and we'd be back to where we started.

The fact that we're all not constantly getting smashed into means that on the whole drivers are competent.


In terms of absolute safety the average driver is quite terrible. Following too closely, swerving in and out of lanes, not stopping at stop signs, driving 10 over. I see this daily.

On a typical Texas highway not only is everyone driving 10 over, and the typical following distance is about ~1 car length. At 80 miles an hour. Lord have mercy if anything happens on the road.




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