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The implication is that nuclear proliferation is linked to the US pausing Ukraine aid.

That's a gross mischaracterization.

I'll bet you 10 to 1 that Ukraine won't end up with nukes.




Ukraine might not, at this point, because it may be too late for them under whatever heavy-handed peace deal gets imposed. It's all the other would-be Ukraines who are going to make nukes.

Finland, Poland, South Korea, Taiwan...

Better safe than sorry.


I'll buy you a beer if any of these regions have a nuke in 10 years.


Sounds good. See you in 2035!


How did you move the goalposts in three sentences?

Nuclear proliferation occurring does not require Ukraine in particular to be a country with nukes


Nanotuber is a bot

> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43264671

Anyone have any proposals to fight propaganda like this on forums in general?


I am no bot. Dang can reach out to confirm etc.

On the flip side, your comments have been incredibly disrespectful and flamewar-ish.

You may not know me as a person, and may be paranoid about bots etc. But that does not mean you can mistreat me.


AI can pass the Turing test, for observers of this interaction, don’t fall prey to the failure mode of the human mind where someone makes bold claims with no backing, but stated confidently as a way to hijack your perception of their correctness

Nanotuber has made several claims without evidence beyond this forums posts as backing claim. I have made the claim that Nanotuber is a bot without evidence beyond this forums posts as backing.

The Nanotuber account did not respond to my specific claims until I called out their lack of responding. The Nanotuber account also appealed to authority to the admins of this site by claiming I broke the rules on flame wars after I made the claim of being a bot, in a way to try and silence me by invoking admin action via reference to the rules of the forum

These are are all subtle ways of automatically manufacturing consent via AI bots that can now replicate tone of voice and semantics in text.

I’ll again repeat my request for anyone who comes across this thread. How do we combat these types of tactics?


Dude you need to go outside and touch grass.

Good luck.


Responding to what I thought the parent comment was saying.

I'll buy you a beer if a new state (besides Iran) gets nuclear weapons in the next 10 years.




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