If Jonny startup has been building release prioritised systems all his life/career, there's a decent chance he doesn't even know what more goes into systems with higher release & maintenance standards.

Conversely, if Terrence has only ever worked in high rigour environments, he's unlikely to understand Jonny's perspective when Jonny says that code generation tools are doing amazing "reliable" things.

Again, this isn't meant to be a value judgement against either Jonny or Terrence, more that they don't have shared context & understanding on what and how the other is building, and therefore are going to struggle to have a productive conversation about a magic blackbox that one thinks will take their job in 6 months.

Your leap that lack of exposure, maybe even lack of capability, to writing high quality software precludes being aware of varying degrees of software quality is curious, and frankly unrealistic. In reality, Johnny Startup knows full well what tradeoffs he is making. Top quality software is not a priority concern of his, but he understands that it can be for other people. He is under no illusions that safety-critical software, for example, is written like a line-of-business MVP. And vice verse. Especially given the context of people participating in communities like HN where software quality is a regular topic. We are not talking about people living under rocks, as they say. It is effectively impossible for one to not have that awareness.