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Does iMessage not count and E2EE (with the caveat of disabling iCloud) to you? It’s available on desktop.



I don't trust closed, non-auditable Apple ecosystem. See these:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25074959

https://sneak.berlin/20231005/apple-operating-system-surveil...


Lol, just look at the person's handle.


Yeah. Go ahead.




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