I am confused what we are conversing about. Waterluvian wrote the big tech companies are not capable of innovation, so my response was the funding still needs to come from them.

Whether or not it is a large group of employees or a small group of employees doing the innovating is a separate matter, but the need for huge cash flows is there (if my assertion is correct).

Then we agree. I must have missed something as I was finishing a bottle of 7.5% alcohol beer.

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