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Nature had a head start. If you give me 100 million years I can build an ant too.



At that point it's not you, its nature. Because you are an extension of nature. In a way, needles built by humans are needles built by nature.


We need to be more specific here.

It's both nature, but "evolution" took millions of years to build the ant, and "humans" could probably do it I a fraction of the time.


Yes but evolution took that many years to build humans. I'm zooming out here and recognizing we are just another outgrowth of nature doing its thing.


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There is no discussion possible with that line of reasoning. Invoking God is terminus for any discussion independent of your beliefs.

In your frame of reference consider as though God is building it through the human.

It still make no difference, whether we could still do it through conscious design than just evolutionary pressures which was what this discussion is really about.


Oh, which God?




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