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It takes a few clicks and entering a password to enable backups. Restore also worked fine the one time I needed it. They can go to Google Drive just fine, Syncthing is only so I have the backups going to my NAS instead.

As to ringing, it seems that the six people with six different phones (mostly Pixels, one iPhone) in my circle mean that it isn't good luck on my part...

It's end to end by default vs Telegram which is well known to be end to end maybeish if it's explicitly setup, for private chats only. WhatsApp is WhatsApp. Maybe it's a low bar, but Signal beats those others pretty easily. And refusing to use Signal over those two due to lack of a security audit is a bit absurd... All you're getting from Telegram and WhatsApp is "trust us bro" as well.

It's not an excuse. But considering it IS transparent for many users, me included.... Not everyone is having the issues you are.




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