> You have to realize that a lot of BSD enthusiasts are people who have let "being a *BSD user" subsume their whole identity and there's a lot of "Linux is for noobs"-style elitism.
As someone using Debian, Ubuntu, OpenBSD, and other OSs regularly, what I'm experiencing is perhaps less "elitism" on the BSD side, and more of: "hey, we're also here, it would be nice if you could consider us sometimes". The BSDs traditionally have different ways of doing some things, which are equally as valid, but e.g. OpenSSH considers the needs of Linux users, and provides sandboxing through seccomp[1] (which NB is quite an achievement to get right, contrast with pledge[2]).
Meanwhile e.g. on the systemd or GNOME side of things, projects tend to act not only as if Linux was the only platform in existence, but almost as if any alternative or adjacent technologies had no right to co-exist either: e.g. when GNOME told SDL2 developers to link against GTK to draw native window borders under Wayland[3]; or as systemd continues to swallow every traditionally discrete UNIX service, such as cron or syslog, and tries to shove DBus into the kernel. This is a stance that I'd expect from Apple (who are shipping an opinionated but highly polished and desirable product), not an open source community, where value emerges from collaboration.
Of course there are plenty acts of both generosity and jackassery in all of these communities, however the picture you're trying to paint is a bit unfair.
> [...] an open source community, where value emerges from collaboration.
Poettering hates everything that he hasn't touched. This is well-known and why anyone that cares about Linux and what it stands for should not use any OS that is infected by his projects.
As someone using Debian, Ubuntu, OpenBSD, and other OSs regularly, what I'm experiencing is perhaps less "elitism" on the BSD side, and more of: "hey, we're also here, it would be nice if you could consider us sometimes". The BSDs traditionally have different ways of doing some things, which are equally as valid, but e.g. OpenSSH considers the needs of Linux users, and provides sandboxing through seccomp[1] (which NB is quite an achievement to get right, contrast with pledge[2]).
[1]: https://github.com/openssh/openssh-portable/blob/master/sand... [2]: https://github.com/openssh/openssh-portable/blob/master/sand...
Meanwhile e.g. on the systemd or GNOME side of things, projects tend to act not only as if Linux was the only platform in existence, but almost as if any alternative or adjacent technologies had no right to co-exist either: e.g. when GNOME told SDL2 developers to link against GTK to draw native window borders under Wayland[3]; or as systemd continues to swallow every traditionally discrete UNIX service, such as cron or syslog, and tries to shove DBus into the kernel. This is a stance that I'd expect from Apple (who are shipping an opinionated but highly polished and desirable product), not an open source community, where value emerges from collaboration.
[3]: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/217
Of course there are plenty acts of both generosity and jackassery in all of these communities, however the picture you're trying to paint is a bit unfair.