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Michigan DOT Snowplow Names (michigan.gov)
499 points by nielsbot on Jan 10, 2022 | hide | past | favorite | 105 comments



Even better, the "MI Drive" site (for Michigan road conditions) actually shows live webcam footage from many (all?) of the DOT plows.

This is valuable during the winter to see the road conditions outside of areas like metro Detroit or Grand Rapids (which have fixed road cameras).

https://mdotjboss.state.mi.us/MiDrive/map?plows=true

EDIT: I mostly drive between Grand Rapids and Lansing, and I haven't looked in a while, but there are actually a lot of fixed cameras on major highways now, even outside metro areas:

https://mdotjboss.state.mi.us/MiDrive/map?cameras=true


The public information is an afterthought. Cameras on plows are a liability thing. Plows often hit things they simply cannot see, stuff covered in snow. But after a collision is is very hard to determine what if anything was under the snow prior to impact. There is no way to really avoid this problem while still plowing. So cameras protect the city/state/driver by showing what things looked like from the driver's perspective. That the streams are shared with the public is a bonus.


Ontario Canada, here. MIs neighbour to the East.

My city has two persons in the cab, one is the driver, one is the spotter. The spotter really just calls audibles on the stuff they see.

It's cheaper to hire that spotter than pay the insurance for single operator scenarios.

We can get some heavy snow days, the kind that make everything come to a standstill until things are cleared by these hulking beasts (kudos for naming one plow "hulk"). Having access to this information would be awesome.

Not surprising the home of the motor city would (appear) have their road clearing under control.


Most terrifying moment I ever had a car was passing a plow+sand trailer on the colloquial highway (BC). He was plowing the right lane and I was following semi trucks passing in the relatively clear left lane. Right as I got beside the plow's trailer it jackknifed 45 degrees away from me. I though we were all going to die in a huge pileup. But it turned out to be one of these. I had seen them many times. I had never seen one engage the second plow while going 60mph. I did not know they could do it on the move.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJEgkbq_b2Q


That's wild. Thank you for sharing.


And rightly so - just about every year there's a news article about another pedestrian or cyclist killed by a snowplow here in Montreal.


That's exactly it. The unfortunate truth about the operators is they're under intense pressure to perform under harsh time constraints.

They're out there before the snow falls, during the snowfall and until the snow is off the road operating essentially a multi-ton switchblade in darkness where everything is hidden beneath an opaque blanket of frozen water. And your vehicle (before the blade is attached) is as wide as the lane.

The visibility conditions are bad, the road surface is bad (that's why you're out there!) And your boss is remotely monitoring your every movement, questioning every work stoppage as if stopping for a coffee, or to take a dump is going to bankrupt the economy. Even operating 'just' the sidewalk plows seems super stressful.

I have had close friends who were the spotters for 40-year veteran operators, it seems like a huge rush that (despite all these challenges) could be kind of fun.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/london-ontario-snowplo...


it being an afterthought is, imho, what makes it so excellent. the attitude of "we collected this data, might as well make it public" is exactly how governments should operate.


MnDOT offers similar services (plow and fixed cameras, along with lots of other traffic information) for Minnesota as well: https://511mn.org. If you're really bored, it can be fun to track incoming snowstorms across all of the fixed cameras in a certain direction!


That's a fantastic use of IT in government. Props to whoever came up with that idea and the group that implemented it.


"Why don't we open up the feeds from ALPR cameras as a limited hang-out?"


Ehh, the RCOC speed cameras have been open since the early 2000's. I don't think they have the resolution nor the bandwidth for ALPR, but they're supremely useful for checking traffic. I get more from a visual than from colored streets on a map.

http://www2.rcocweb.org/TrafficWebNT/Index.html


"because then the citizenry will know how surveilled they are and they might put pressure on politicians to curtail our ability to buy cool tech without voersight"

"we'll just downgrade it from 4k to 1080p and we'll only give them access to half of them"


This is fantastic! My wife and I often drive US-2. It can be a gamble in inclement weather.

This is really helpful for understanding conditions in the lesser traveled parts of the state.


Love watching the plows during a storm and seeing the live updates on their state: salting, plowing, etc.


the "Transportation" name for those fixed camera systems are "Rwis" (Road Weather Information System) stations. Definitely check them out before you highway drive but also be aware that changing weather conditions can make roads slippery or otherwise dangerous.

The plow cameras and sensors (plow position, salt/aggregate activity, etc) are more useful for transportation operations staff to know what's been plowed and what still needs plowing but technically do take pictures of the whole highway instead of just the rwis stations.


Worked on this one some time ago[0]. Webcams are a big reason folks come to the site. Clicking on the "Princeton" icon get you a popup of the current image and clicking on that gets you the detail page[1]. On the detail page there is a "Replay the day" button which will "card flip" the images for the last 24hrs to give you a sense of what conditions have been like (no time machine yet :-) ).

Site went live back in 2005 with the current look appearing around about 2009 (memory is getting fuzzy).

Baseline network activity on a typical day ran about 4 MByte/sec continuous; on "snow days"[2] the load increases an order of magnitude to 24 MByte/second. That was 5+ years ago - I expect there's been growth since then.

[0] https://drivebc.ca/#mapView&z=11&ll=49.485664%2C-120.367187

[1] https://images.drivebc.ca/bchighwaycam/pub/html/dbc/452.html

[2] "Snow day" might be "the Coquihalla is getting about 50cm over the next 12 hours"


today I learned the name of RWIS cameras.

I actually used one recently. My wife was caught in a traffic jam due to an accident/car fire. I was able to actually find a visual of her car on the highway from my laptop. She had our baby in the car who was screaming and I was able to narrate what was happening with the accident - which gave her enough time to change a diaper while stopped and then get safely back in the driver seat before traffic started moving.


yeah, @DriveSpotter worked with some snowplow fleets for a bit -- some states are way ahead of others on sharing cam & coverage data!


I do think the Scots still have some better ones: https://www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/scotland-snow-plows-nam...

Clearopathra is inspired, though.


We don't get snow in England, so gritter names are what's vogue, here's a selection from the East Riding of Yorkshire [1]:

    David Plowie
    Nicole Saltslinger
    Spreaddie Mercury
    Thaw Enforcement
    Gritney Spears

1. https://www.eastriding.gov.uk/say/features/new-names-for-cou...


Ctrl-Salt-Delete is a close 2nd IMHO.


"You're a Blizzard, Harry" is fantastic


What bugs me is "Lord Coldemort & You're a Blizzard Harry" is a single name, which is just awkward. Both are excellent puns and should be two separate snowplows.


Michigan does have "Snowbegone Kenobi"!


Minnesota with "Darth Blader"!


Indeed some utter gems and nice list here: https://www.motortrend.com/news/scotland-gritter-snowplows-n...


There used to be a lot of punny band names like Gritallica. It looks like only Sled Zepplin is out now.


Truck Norris does not plow snow. The snow sees Truck Norris coming and the snow jumps out of the way.


The Northwest Passage exists, but only when Truck Norris is going that way to pick up a Klondike bar.


I present to you the gritters of Scotland. https://scotgov.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html...



"Abolish ICE" was a punny (but disqualified) option on the Minnesota ballot last year https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/22/us/abolish-ice-minnesota-...


"Duck Duck Orange Truck" is perfect


For those of you not from Minnesota, "Duck Duck Gray Duck" is their version of "Duck Duck Goose."

(I'm not sure if it's just a Minnesota thing, but I never heard it in any of the other upper midwest states in which I lived.)


I believe this is the authoritative reference on the subject

https://www.christopherpollard.com/2013/02/22/in-minnesota-i...


Do they...not have geese there?

(I'm Ohioan, and can confirm never having heard of this... questionable variant)


We definitely have geese. But to us, the game has always been called Duck Duck Gray Duck



Do the snowplow Minds name themselves?


Is that Iain Banks?


Experiencing A Significant Gravitas Snowfall


Oh man, finally something I can do. Irregular Snowpocalypse. Snow More Mr Nice Guy. Clear Road Turbulence. Clear Surface. So Much for Snowdays. Of Course Ice till love you (that one's a stretch). Precipitation Effect. It'll be over by christmas (that one works on its own).

There's a lot more, but I'm at work and people are walking in now.


"Self Driving v3: Self Awareness! Only $15k!"





The Truck Formerly Known As Plow is particularly appropriate since it's Prince's home state.


Vermont has a Plowy McPlowface. https://vtrans.vermont.gov/name-a-plow


They do have Rusty McSaltmeister...


Apparently these names were submitted in a contest, it appears Plowy McPlowface was one of them, but sadly didn't make the final cut

https://www.audacy.com/wwjnewsradio/news/local/mdot-names-al...


Brilliant and they have "Mr. Plow", so clearly some Simpsons fans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Plow


I'm just disappointed that there isn't a Snowplowy McSnowplowFace.


Minnesota has Plowy McPlowFace from a link in another comment.


I like Biboon Ogichidaa (Ojibwe for Winter Warrior)


I read a dozen of these names to a friend just now and she said, "This is genius! They must have let the snowplow crews name their own plows. After all, who is going to take better care of their machine, the crew who drives Snowplow 437 or the crew who drives Clearopathra?"

This made me curious: who did come up with these names? Was it top down from the DOT? Or did they let the crews name their plows?


On the other side of the Atlantic:

> The story of these hilarious gritter names goes back to 2006 when Transport for Scotland decided to run a competition in Scottish primary schools. Pupils were tasked with inventing the best possible names for a fleet of gritters.

(Gritter = salt/grit spreader, more common than an actual plough in Britain, although Scotland presumably needs some of each.)

I don't know if Scotland was first with the idea. Big vehicles have been named for centuries, officially and unofficially. (Ships, trains, planes etc.)


    Observers of contemporary culture coined the term "McBoatfacing", defined as "making the critical mistake of letting the internet decide things". In one such observation, Jennifer Finney Boylan of The New York Times wrote that to be "McBoatfaced" was to allow people to "deliberately make their choices not in order to foster the greatest societal good, but, instead, to mess with you". The results of the poll inspired numerous similar spoofs in other naming polls.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boaty_McBoatface

See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mcface_spoofs


I dont think it was a spoof.

People just preferred the silly name


Saltimus Brine...

"Now, All We Need Is A Little Salt And A Lot Of Luck!"

"There's A Thin Line Between Roads Being A Closed, And Roads Being Open."

"One Day, An Plow Truck Will Rise From Our Ranks And Use The Power Of Salt To Clear Our Worst Roads. Until That Day, Til' All Are One."

"Snow Shall Stand, Salt Shall Fall!"


"Ctrl Salt Delete" - hoo hah!



I was really hoping for a "Mr. Plow".

EDIT: H/T to capableweb for a working Ctrl+F


There is a Mr. Plow! It's under "Southwest Region". Many others could be considered Mr. Plow as well, Gordie Plow, Herbert H. Plow, Marco Plowo and more.


Yes! Thank you for finding that! (How did I miss that?)


There's a Mr Plow because that's his name, Mr Plow.


Mr plow is a loser (and I think he is a boozer) so you'd better make that call to the Plow King


I love singing that song…


But sadly no “The Plow King”


"The Big LePlowski"

Hahaha. Some of these are great!


These look like names a 100-flavor wing place would have, except snow-themed.


Snow Force 1 is the one I link the most.


I wish there was some way to objectively measure how much snow has been displaced by each truck. Then there can be some sort of competition bracket for the most throughput!


i'm just happy that HN has a sense of humor and every US DOT that has snowplows should have such a page. these are too good. TIL: Heikki Lunta is the embodiment of the Finnish snow god character who originated in the mythology of the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. The character of Heikki Lunta is a product of the heavy Finnish-American presence in Michigan's Upper Peninsula combined with a tremendous annual snowfall.

...and Snowbegone Kenobi lol


I figured there must be Finns somewhere up there because one of the plows is named "Sisu." It means prolonged determination in the face of adversity. [0] It's a quality that Finns value very highly.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisu


WW2 airplane nose art:

https://www.google.com/search?q=ww2+nose+art&source=lnms&tbm...

My dad's was "Round Trip Ticket III"


This being HN, I initially read this as "michigan.snowplow" names and thought Michigan had come up with some oddly-specific TLD.


Salt Salt Baby was where I LOL'd, but what, no Tony Snowprano? No Spred Zeppelin?

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Road?


I kind of like how Ohio does the highway notice boards when there isn't an accident; they queue up suggestions from the public, and some of them are pretty good.


Scotland has Sled Zepplin




These are all fantastic but Yooper Scooper is really inspired.


It's a long used name for a snow removal device:

https://upsupply.co/steez/yooper-scooper


In the old space 4x game series "Space Empires", one could upload a txt file of ship names. This would be a great list of names.


"Plowderpuff" should be wearing the headlight eyelashes things.

"Sir Aaron Brr" prolly likes to splash the snow back into traffic.


Does anyone know how long this has been going? I know Scotland didn’t start until 2006, but what about other countries?


So happy they didn't go with the laziest name possible that has been beaten to death already.


Can we goad Disney into sueing Michigan over this so bad IP law gets more bad press?


I thought this was going to be a story about a domain name ending with .snowplow


"ol' seven fingers" means "son, go to college."


I vote for: "Han Snow-Lo" to be the best in that list.


Saul T. Streets is a strong contender


My vote is for 'Mr Plow'


So… many… Star Wars … references, indirectly of course.


"The Edge"? No? U2 fans where are you?


This made my day


John Oliver called out a number of similarly interesting names on The Bugle: https://youtu.be/Q-i1M1Oh3h0?t=220


Never been more proud to be a Michigander


Peppy Le Plow


Rusty McSaltmeister


Missed opportunities for:

* Snowpiercer * Plowly McPlowFace


[flagged]


Why? The front page isn't holy ground. It is interesting and entertaining.

Edit: It is interesting and entertaining to me to see humanity peek through the uninspired Vogon bureaucracy that usually saturates government.


This would be a good fit for Facebook or Reddit. No so much Hacker News, much less #1 on the front page.

You must not have been on the internet, or its predecessors, in the 1980's and 90's. It was full of wonderful things like this.


one of my portfolio companies turned list into public gsheet if want to vote / comment on fave names / etc. https://twitter.com/drivespotter/status/1480732040953839618




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