My wife says that this is complicated and there is a lot of nuance, but there are specifics of their work that cannot be replicated, and in fact my wife's lab came to opposite conclusions for some of the results. So the labs that do work on this pathway simply ignore or refute in their future papers the Lill lab results that conflict. She said that whole paper is ignored and there was a meeting in Germany with the labs that work on this pathway and all the grad students agreed they did not trust work coming out of the Lill lab. She said she thought the paper was fully retracted and was surprised when I sent her the link that it wasn't fully retracted.