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> However, take some of the science positions in the book with a grain of salt. The author is notorious for being directionally correct in his opinions,

I've read it and I agree. Although he does admit in the beginning that there basically is not much conclusive facts about sleep, hence his motivation for writing the book. It's implied that what he is saying is fact, and its a lot more correlation than I think panacea.

> It's also commonly known that people get less sleep than they think they do.

A few things IIRC from the book:

- The specific number is irrelevant as long as its "around 7~9"

- If you're lying down / resting this still "counts" (its not as impactful, but still beneficial)

If people don't want to read the book, the JRE podcast is actually pretty good at summarizing whats in the book: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwaWilO_Pig

Good high level points about what to do to get to sleep (5 things):

https://youtu.be/pwaWilO_Pig?t=3011




> the JRE podcast is actually pretty good at summarizing whats in the book

Anyone who expects to learn something from a Joe Rogan podcast should understand that it is for the most part, a podcast where people go to have their ideas go unchallenged: https://www.vice.com/en/article/9kv9qd/the-joe-rogan-experie...


So let me get this straight. The entire basis for "we should understand that ideas go unchallenged" is because a Vice article told you that? An article that doesn't do anything other than cite a few instances where JR lets interviewees go unchallenged? Honestly, that article is terrible. I would expect something more conclusive to say something like "we fact checked 100 of JRE's guests and found 47 of them to be factually incorrect in what they were saying"

I mean I generally agree that he doesn't necessarily challenge his interviewees but to say you don't learn something from JRE is kind of off IMO.

Anyway, that's besides the point because I've both read the book and watched the podcast. Additionally I've checked some of the sources and they're consistent with what the author has communicated. In a world of sound bites, I'm simply offering that this soundbite is better than single sentence headliners but not as good as reading a whole book or even further, reading a book and every source.


I hope the irony here -- citing a Vice article when complaining about ideas going unchallenged -- is not lost on anyone.




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