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Some views Moderate Democrats held in the 90s could be very far right, depending on the subject. Bill Clinton supported "Don't ask, don't tell" and the defense of marriage act. They were considered moderate in the 90s, but I would classify them as far right today. A moderate in the 1930s could literally have supported Fascism, and the "progressive" Woodrow Wilson supported the Klu Klux Klan. I'm not saying this applies to you, but "moderate XX years ago" is not an argument against something being far right.



Exactly. By your standards, Bill Clinton was "far right".

Excellent example.

For the record, I support civil rights protections for all humans, including gays on the basis on sexual orientation. I disagreed then with most of Bill Clinton's policies toward gay rights (I also strongly supported making marriage a uniquely civil institution vis-a-vis government recognition available to all citizens, like France).

By the way, you know who else had that exact same views on gay rights as Bill Clinton when he entered office?

Barack Obama.

Was he "far right" in 2008?


If you didn't say it was Obama and polled Democrat's based on his actions/views I'd be pretty confident they'd say "far right".


I'm pretty sure you're right, particularly if you combined the socio-cultural views from his first term and the global military actions of the second.

It's absolutely untethered how far much of the left has moved in 10-15 years. The right has also moved toward the right, but they're much less homogeneous in their beliefs.

This is reflected in polls over time from Pew and others:

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/interactives/political-...

(click "animate" to see to 2017).




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