Please take a look at the Human Rights Watch reports[0] for USA, China and Russi...

csydas · on Sept 13, 2016

Mmm, I'd agree but the parent is specifically talking about surveillance, not about all human rights, and it's true - the US likes to condemn cyber-espionage and surveillance while simultaneously spying on the entirety of the planet and attacking/infiltrating the planet as it sees fit.

mafribe · on Sept 13, 2016

Human Rights Watch being an American organisation, led by a member of the US power elite (e.g. Goldman Sachs, Soros' OSF) might have something to do with it?

Nah, perish the though!

fulafel · on Sept 13, 2016

HRW funding and staff indeed looks surprisingly US-biased. But Amnesty and PEN also score the US a couple notches above Russia and China.

_rc2w · on Sept 13, 2016

As someone who resides in the USA, I'd rather China or Russia have access to my data, regardless of any abuse of human rights. Unlike the US, they're extremely limited in how they can use my data to harm me.

kevin_thibedeau · on Sept 13, 2016

The problem is that they can sell your data to someone more interested in targeting you specifically. If that happens within the US there is a means to litigate the guilty parties. Outside, you're SOL.

igivanov · on Sept 13, 2016

You don't need to look there, at all. Just look at the US aggressive wars and subversive activities in this century, e.g. Iraq, Libya and it becomes clear that the value of human rights abroad from the US point of view is exactly 0.

threeseed · on Sept 14, 2016

Iraq was a disgrace but bringing up Libya means you are either ignorant or being disingenuous. Gaddafi had imminent plans to commit another cleansing of the opposition. It was always going to be a lose-lose situation for human rights. Doing nothing is not always the right answer.

babayega2 · on Sept 14, 2016

It's better to state the reality not the myth sold by USA : Ghadafi wasn't about to commit anything else than what US allies have already done.

Now Libya is a failed state thanks to US and HRW lies.

stana · on Sept 14, 2016

So how do you rate the situation in Libya before and after Gaddafi?

fdgdasfadsf · on Sept 14, 2016

Bad with him there. Much worse with him gone.

igivanov · on Sept 14, 2016

By calling Iraq a disgrace you are effectively calling the 9/11 a micro-disgrace. That's how these two differ in the order of numbers of lives lost.

nyddle · on Sept 13, 2016

Human Rights Watch. By Americans for Americans.

joesmo · on Sept 13, 2016

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y4mi · on Sept 13, 2016

i hope you're kidding or trolling.

the current situation with incarcerations in america sounds horrible, yes, but its a far cry from systematically eradicating millions of people per year...

joesmo · on Sept 14, 2016

Really? I don't see much difference. Slavery is slavery. Torture is torture. Rape is rape. The first two are legal in prison and all three are widely practiced as punishment. Yes, you have a better chance of surviving our prisons, but by that point, your life is ruined and pretty much over anyway. There are much worse things than death.

mainguy · on Sept 14, 2016

Exactly!, I mean for sure slavery is not so bad too if you treat the slaves nicely right? Systematically enslaving them is also a far cry from eradicating them right?