Dam straight, nothing wrong with coolaid if it's good for you. Mid sized company(~3K), 30 years old, well above market pay, stellar benefits, 10-30% bonuses and a very family friendly culture. I don't blame them if they want to keep what works, people are smart enough to smell bs coolaid.

There's never 'layoffs' and never ever entire groups let go. Just regular PIPs for people who you think... 'no great loss'

I'll admit, doesn't scale to cisco though.