> No one is happy…except greedy executives and shareholders.
It is a fairly effective system to extract money from customers (patients) while also ensuring that patients do not use too many services (afaik, US population has shorter life spans than rest of Western world).
The consumer apps use RAG and traditional search to give the LLM recent information in the prompt when it answers your query. This basically bridges over the knowledge gap between the end of training and today.
I'm fully aware, I'm just wanting to point out to people that the actual AI apps they'll use can and do return recent information due to integrations like that. Lots of people think AI can only answer stuff in its training set, but it can answer anything from whatever data you hand to it, including any data on the internet.
Lots of AI tools can easily answer "who won the basketball game last night".
You don’t have to do RAG or use a serp scraper MCP, just add the Search Grounding tool to the APzi request and it does the rest at the model’s discretion and $0.014 / search.
I think that’s generally a fair price for my time vs doing my own search queries at 1/100th the speed. It could get expensive for deep research type queries.
yup, I looked at it GwGS and it's not interesting. I want actual results, not a summary and some links to sites (not pages), then to go crawl those pages
Don't want Google as the middleman between the internet and my agent. Their search has become so bad I don't even use it any more
Off-the-shelf AI can replace workers in their twenties and AI fine-tuned over a few months for your company's needs can replace workers in their forties. Problem solved!
>> As for how: DRM-like tech in the hands of users should allow for that.
> If it's in the hands of the users, i.e. open source, it can be disabled at any moment, which is exactly what my reply already addressed.
The point is that with the help of hardware-backed DRM on the client, the Matrix server could send data only to unmodified clients. You modified your client in a way that does not match what the Matrix server expects? No data for you.
As much as I'd appreciate more open source for the sake of transparency, binaries provided on websites aren't guaranteed to match the source code provided and I'd assume most users are pulling binaries versus building themselves.
Practically every platform has multiple software stores these days and many FOSS stores make their build logs available. Some take it a step further and provide reproducible builds, which is more or less there as far as source to binary traceability and binary trustworthiness is concerned. These are good enough reasons to open up the source, ignoring the other advantages just this once.
This is true, and this is where trusted repositories come in.
I don't necessarily have to trust each individual app on fdroid or in the Debian repos. I have trust the maintainers are building them properly, and those people are not the same people developing the core app.
The ability to do so provides some protection. If someone pulls and builds and cannot reproduce the binaries, they can at least try to get the word out. Closed-source prevents even the opportunity. Even source-available is better than closed.
My concern is Kagi isn't/doesn't make as much as they need/hope to with their brand model. If they are ever disappointed in the results of building their brand, it's quite easy to see why they would be fine selling out.
Hell, WhatsApp started out as a privacy focused messaging app before selling out to Facebook/Meta. Now it's getting ads, nobody believes a privacy focus anymore, it's had a commercial message channel push, and so on. They are far from the first example of a tech company/product trading the mission/brand value for more money.
Bless the VLC developer for refusing offers for millions of dollars to put crap in VLC even though he knows the project could just be forked after and bless Gorhill for the same on uBO but the real trust in these things comes from the code being open source rather than faith the developers would never sell out.
The Ethyl Corporation primarily, they had to quickly diversify and adjust their business model as a result of the US phase out of tetraethyllead. They managed to stem some of the bleeding by simply just...selling the rest to other countries before they instituted their own restrictions on leaded gas (which tells you how ethically sound said business was) but this was a massive change at the time considering just about every vehicle used leaded gas even if it was a slow rollout.
As a team lead, working with people is so... cumbersome. They need time to recharge, lots of encouragement, and a nice place to work in. Give me a coding agent any time!
Clearly there’s a tension on this venture-capital-run website between some people using their computer-nerd skills to save money and improve their experience, and other people hustling a business that requires the world to pay them.
> Clearly there’s a tension on this venture-capital-run website
Yeah. If they have a problem with that, they can kill HN. You can't have hackers/smart people in your forum and decide what they will do. Moderation can try do guide it but there is a limit when meeting smart + polite people.
It is a fairly effective system to extract money from customers (patients) while also ensuring that patients do not use too many services (afaik, US population has shorter life spans than rest of Western world).
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