Wonder if this could be co-opted to function like a Narrative Clip. Take a photo every 30 seconds (or something like that). I had mine for 3 years before it died
Currently it replaces the oldest photos, yes. (There might be use cases where you only want to keep the first 20k photos though -- if anyone wants that, get in touch and I can add a setting.)
I figured that was the case. That makes the most sense for your original use-case. I ordered one last night, are you seeing a large uptick of orders from this post?
It is an asset and in their minds worth something. Think old people and fine china dinner plates. They are convinced that they are valuable and refuse to throw it out
Oh god we had this in team building exercises in the woods. "Here's a pile of junk, work out how to cross a stream without getting wet". One guy grabbed a long piece of wood and vaulted over the stream, others weren't satisfied until they had incorporated every single item from the pile of junk into the solution
It suddenly made it clear how each person worked that I couldn't see in the office
But the flag was useful to show in the ui where the language setting was. This is especially useful when the language has been set to something I cannot read. I don't know which of 语言设定 and 重置设备 will allow me to set the language back to English. Also flags in the menu means that I can find English easier than 英语
Wikipedia uses a “文Ａ” icon; IMHO far better than a flag. What flag would you expect to see?
As for finding the language in the menu, listening a language in the foreign language seems like bad design too. The menu should list “English” as an option!
I personally had no idea that icon let you change the language of articles (a concept I explicitly looked for before).
Still confused at what the icon is actually supposed to mean.
Wikipedia's UI has perhaps been over-optimized over time, by people already too familiar with said UI, and so has lost the natural context cues for learnability. (Similar to what happened to modern smartphone UIs re: secondary-interaction gestures.)
Here's how the same chooser looks on Wiktionary — which is also how it used to look on Wikipedia, back when Wikipedia used the full default MediaWiki sidebar: https://oshi.at/HhVH/zhWZ.png
You've got a subsection header "In other languages"; and under it, a list of links titled with the names of languages. (This reads as: these are a set of popular suggested alternative language views of this page, and clicking these links will take you directly to the page in those languages.) And at the end of this list, aligned as the final list item, there's a button with a weird icon with the text "51 more" on it. (And this reads as: clicking here will expand some flyout menu or modal, which will allow you to see you the rest of the list of language options, and perhaps search within them.)
In that context, you don't really have to understand the meaning of the icon to know what to do; rather, the interaction of changing language is directed by the rest of the design, and going through it teaches you the meaning of the icon. Which allows you to later understand its use elsewhere in the site's design.
The popular reason is likely because 文 is used across East Asia in Chinese and Japanese (Korean and Vietnamese too, though written differently)[0], with the ideograph standing in as a sufficiently different contrast to the Latin alphabet, and as a reference to a major non-latin-alphabet based user market, while being simple enough to render (compared to something more "difficult"[1] like 语/語)
It's also been used in the Google Translate logo as well.
[1] Not only because of Simplified/Traditional/Japanese renderings (文 is mostly the same across all three), but more strokes for a small icon is a bad idea regardless
But I don’t know Chinese so I don’t know that is an arbitrary Chinese character with the Latin A for contrast. I’ve seen languages that don’t use the Latin alphabet occasionally intersperse Latin letters before so until I was told just now I assumed that this Chinese character with A had some significance in Chinese.
Visiting the Netherlands right now and every time I visit local.google.com, it reverts back to Dutch. I had no idea what the symbol on its own and only figured it out when searching how to get things back to English and seeing the symbol used in that specific context.
The 文 also appears in the Google Translate icon on iOS [0], which is why I always attributed it to a machine translation, not a version of the article written in another language by a human.
Salesforce translates (or did when I last used it) all the language and time zone options. If you switched to Japanese by accident, switching back was a bit of a challenge.
I have also seen this icon on google translate, used to denote text. I wonder who came up with it first. Any time I've seen it, I have immediately guessed what it meant.
> I don't know which of 语言设定 and 重置设备 will allow me to set the language back to English.
That's why the languages should be presented in their "own" native form (name and alphabet), at least additionally. Which
- using the native form and the translation in the current active locale - Apple does, btw., so at least on MacOS your problem does not exist.
The should be presented mainly, mostly and primarily in their native form. The form for currently set language should be additional. It's a no-brainer which makes demand for using flags unnecessary, almost making it absurd to use them.
But, wait. 语言设定 is "Language settings" and 重置设备 is "Reset device". So the problem here is a bit different, right?
It's the convention on sites to put the flags as a top-level element (but you could put "English" there just as easily). But on any device with a menu, the flags are usually only on the language list.
Exactly, that's also how Apple (I'm starting to feel bad to constantly mention them) does it, the native form is "normal font face", the translated one is in lighter grey.
The problem being posed by 'peterhi is not identifying a particular language in a language selection list. The problem is finding your way over to that language selection list in the first place when presented with a UI in a language you can't read. Imagine you land on a website with the language set to (say) Esperanto, how do you navigate through that to change the language to (say) English?
As just one example of what we're talking about, let's take Ireland: after generations of cultural oppression England caused a famine in Ireland that reduced the population by at least 20% between millions of deaths and millions of immigrants. Ireland still hasn't recovered its population to the pre-famine levels.
The Irish are literally still recovering from their abuse at the hands of England. They speak English because England made it so through generations of deliberate cultural extermination. It's unreasonable for you to dismiss their desire to not identify themselves with the British flag as some "type of PCness".
It's possible to just do "English" but sites are typically going to either do British English or US English. Not putting the British flag to avoid offense is just hiding the fact that you're localizing to British English to try and avoid offense. (Which doesn't actually seem better to me.) Unless you actually do separately localize to Irish English. But also why not just provide the same text under two flags?
Also, on the other hand, China may get very cross with you if you refer to Taiwanese Chinese at all. How you refer to a language is inherently political, and hiding the flag changes the political statement you're making, but it doesn't eliminate it, nor does making a consistent decision like "no flag" mean you're going to consistently side with oppressor or oppressed.
This is all "types of PCness" and I don't say that to dismiss it or say that I would never do something for the sake of PCness, but mostly to say that throwing out flags seems like a cop-out and not addressing the problems on a case-by-case basis.
The bigger problems are probably countries with indigenous native languages that only exist in that country but are also a minority... many Latin American countries where you might put Spanish with that country's flag but there is Nahuatl or Quechua or whatever. But on the other hand realistically you are only localizing to Spanish, so again, you're just trying to pretend like you've made a neutral political choice by hiding the flag.
At some point you just have to own the fact that you are who you are because of your history. An Irish dialect of English is still English and it still has that connection to the past, flag or no flag.
More importantly, Ireland speaks two languages, English and Irish. The Irish flag should probably be Irish language since English has other representations. But it isn't obvious.
A commonly used icon or symbol for language selection seems to be the globe symbol (U+1F310). HN seems to filter it away, though, so cannot use it in this comment.
That doesn't help you figure out where to go to change the setting, unless you want to list all the available language options at the top of every single page.
It's the learnability of the language. Remember BASIC? You could show someone a FOR ... NEXT loop and they would completely understand. After a couple more 10 line programs and you can safely hand over the keyboard and handle the "how do I?" questions
You had to show very little before they understood. Now try Lisp ...
M: This is a list
S: What can I do with it?
M: By itself nothing but trust me it is important. This is how we take the head of a list
S: Cool, why would I want to do that?
M: We'll get to that later. This is how you take the tail of a list
S: ...
M: This is how to append to a list
S: Is this going anywhere?
The number of things you are shown but do not understand keeps piling up before they are supposedly going to magically work together to do something underwhelming (when BASIC did very little it took very little to do it). Add to that the function names were either cryptic, "cddar" anyone - "EQ" and "EQUAL", or insanely long
You have too much to learn before you can make sense of anything. Least that was how Lisp was taught to me in the 80s :)
I self taught Forth and Prolog because with both once you learn something you can do something
I don't know why you're being downvoted; I completely agree with this. It's hard to put your head into the mindset of a beginner after it's been in the deep end of the pool for so long. Stuff needs to make sense now and in isolation rather than an ever-growing stack of items that will be explained later. It's a matter of putting stakes in the ground and building incrementally. One could argue that lists and heads and tails do make sense on their own and isolation, but they're maybe not the right primitive, because all the things that beginners might want to use "intuitively" have to be first built out of lists. Lisp is a reductionist language, and that's not good for beginners.
Readable code needs to be not subtle, low on magic, and self-explanatory. The last one is hard to quantify and make objective, but is imperative in making an approachable language.
(set x (list 1 2 3 4 5))
(for item in x
(do stuff to item))
Now try to explain BASIC, but do it by first explaining how to create and manipulate a block of memory.
You are conflating language differences with the real argument which is the decades-old debate about whether introductory courses should be practical or rigorous.
But that is my point. When trying to teach Lisp they would teach you all about the 100 ways to chop up lists without showing you why you would even want to. Your example would not have appeared until the 4th or 5th lecture and would have required the definition of a recursive function (two lectures on recursion alone) to achieve the same thing
And as for BASIC why would you need to "explaining how to create and manipulate a block of memory". This is not something that the BASIC programmer needs to know to write a program
This is just the sort of elitist crap that gatekeeps becoming a programmer. You can drive a car with only the most superficial understanding of how a car works and it does not affect your ability to get from A to B effectively
The answer to this decades old debate is simple, after each lecture the student should be able to do more than they did before they entered the room. At the end of the course they should be capable of teaching themselves from the available resources
Currently on macos because the servers we deploy to are linux. Used to work on windows and it was ok, as everything was done from the command line and the application was deployed from the CVS. Realistically I was not really using windows in any meaningful way. Just something to launch a shell from
It would be annoying to unlearn the macos keystrokes at this point though
The keystroke issue is such a big thing. It's not just a matter of remapping either. Like Control+C in the terminal is Control+C in the terminal, but Command+C is Control+C sometimes and Control+Shift+C other times.
I was expected to get around 10 O Levels at school (a UK exam for 16 yo). I failed them all. The nearest thing to an academic achievement I have ever accomplished :) I stayed on for another 2 years just so I could get an O Level in basic English proficiency, the school was worried that I would be completely unemployable without it. You normally stayed the next 2 years to get A Levels (the advanced version of the O Levels)
Did a lot to temporary work and finally got a clerical job. Later the government opened the YOPS program (Youth Opportunities Program) and I went off to learn COBOL
Got a programming job with it and after a few years applied to go to University (at 29). Fortunately there was a drive to accept "mature" candidates (less qualified) and I was accepted to study Artificial Intelligence as an Arts Degree
Managed a 2ii (a 3 would be viewed as "didn't actually fail" but a 1 or 2i would have been a "good" result)
Went back to being a programmer
People genuinely thought that I would / could get 10 O Levels in the same year, I must have been smart enough to impress my teachers but it all fell apart when I sat down to do the exams
I think that I am at least intelligent but I get sidetracked (the amount of time I spent investigating prime numbers / golomb rulers when I was supposed to be learning calculus). It is still an issue. I have finally learnt everything that they tried to teach me at school (I'm 62 now) and a bunch more
However I was never told I was smart, only that I should try and that I was at least capable of achieving great things academically
I could have done more but that was all down to me and the effort I put forth
The os itself eats much more of the resources than linux running on the same hardware. Macos is a "bigger" operating system (more parts) and they all want memory and cycles. Linux is positively anorexic in comparison :)
It will also depend on how good you are at switching your "muscle memory" at the keyboard. But this is the same for all three of the main oses (linux, macos and windows). It can be very frustrating when you hit a keystroke combination and either it does nothing or something completely different
Ubuntu / Mint is rock solid. I run Ubuntu 22.04 and have had no problems despite heavy customisation on old hardware (Dell Optiplex 3040). If you can install Ubuntu (or Mint) I would expect to run it without issue
