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> expand NATO and giving up Russian speaking Ukraine parts.

you realize this is literally just a russian excuse, yes?


The Ukrainian people do not want further or deeper ties with Russia, period. Your regurgitation of Russian talking points just shows that you have no idea what you are talking about.


The actual problem here is that Ukrainian people are not a monolith. People in certain regions undeniably do want to be part of Russia, or at least have deeper ties.

This is not a Russian talking point. Authorities in Kyiv flat out concede this problematic dilemma.


>People in certain regions undeniably do want to be part of Russia

They most definitely do not lol.


You cannot argue in good faith that the average resident of Crimea is pro-Ukraine. If you refuse to believe this, I cannot help you. Why do you think Putin's annexation in 2014 went so smoothly? The population was by and large positively receptive.


I don't think you're in a position to help anyone in this conversation, respectfully.


Yeah, great. In reality, if you as anyone in basically all of Ukraine (except for 'little green men' and the odd lover of soviet times), you get a clear message about how they've preferred a westward cultural and economic trajectory, and that ever since the war (or Crimea, depends on who you're asking), Russia is the enemy.

> Authorities in Kyiv flat out concede this problematic dilemma.

Im sorry, but lol.


Oleksiy Danilov, the secretary of Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council, outlined in 2022 the plan to reintegrate Crimea. Assuming Ukraine could recapture it. It includes deportation of pro Russians.

Why is he spreading Pro-Russian talking points?


It includes deportation of pro-Russians.

Not of "pro-Russians", but of individuals who came to live in the country illegally after 2014.

It's hard to see why anyone should see a problem with that.


Feb. 4, 2014: Amid rioting on the Maidan in Kiev, YouTube carries Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland’s last minute instructions to U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt regarding the U.S. pick for new Ukrainian prime minister, Arseniy Yatsenyuk (aka “Yats”) and other plans for the imminent coup d’etat in Kiev. When Pyatt expresses concern about EU misgivings about mounting a coup, Nuland says “Fuck the EU.” She then apologizes to the EU a day or two later — for the profanity, not for the coup. She also says that Vice President Joe Biden will help “glue this thing together”, meaning the coup.


This false equivalence is literally russian propaganda.


This just reads as "propaganda is when people say things I don't like". An actual, academic study of propaganda, such as the course that the University of Nottingham offers, makes clear a very different fact.

The USA is far and away the greatest propaganda engine the world has ever seen, and it hasn't been close since the cold war was raging. We push out our ideologies and force the normalization of American culture onto half of the world. Looking at a globe it's actually harder to find a nation that isn't a client state than is.

The lumbering, outdated regional power that is the current Russian state wishes they could wield propaganda a quarter as well as America.



Really comparing the 'ghost of kiev' to the systemic undermining of western democracy by russia?


And I'm not sure you want to appease an enemy that is actively waging hybrid warfare with us.


Sure, by all means eg send lots and lots of money and weapons to help Ukraine. That's independent of whether you want to copy Russian tactics.


> Rival chatbots could produce similarly controversial responses if prompted in the same manner, said Yash Sheth, a former Google employee

Conveniently not discussing the rlhf nature of these responses.


> wages over 4 years have not kept pace

That's a feature of the system, not a bug.


> most of the refugees from the war fled to Russia and live happily here

You are lost, brother.


> denazification

surprised to see this delusion on hn.


Delusion on whose part? That was an explicitly stated objective. It has been a long known and well documented fact that Ukraine has an abundance of neo-nazis, a magnitude like nowhere else. So much so that the ADL had to run interference with the goofiest defense: "All those pictures of captured Ukrainian soldiers with swastikas? Ironic race-hate... they're just trolling guyz!"


Why tf would you post an unsanitized link to a malware executable here?

edit: nice edit to the parent. the original was a github link to the .exe file.


Because we assume our fellow users here are not morons and aren't going to download a file from virustotal.com that says "2 security vendors flagged this file as malicious" and run it and get infected.

You'll note that the github.com link was also published upthread, and is even more malicious.

In linking to the binary, I can download it and run it through radare2/ghidra/idapro and do some static analysis on it for myself.


The link was edited, the original was to the .exe with little commentary and the link was cut off so the filetype wasn't apparent.


Most of us don't run Windows, this is HACKER News not PEBKAC News.



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