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As someone who builds observability tools for embedded software, I am flabbergasted that you're finding a more tools-friendly culture in embedded than in distributed systems!

Most hardware companies have zero observability, and haven't yet seen the light ("our code doesn't really have bugs" is a quote I hear multiple times a week!).


It's probably a "grass is greener" situation.

My experience with mid-size to enterprise is having lots of observability and observability-adjacent tools purchased but not properly configured. Or the completely wrong tools for the job being used.

A few I've seen recently: Grafana running on local Docker of developers because of lack of permissions in the production version (the cherry on top: the CTO himself installed this on the PMs computers), Prometheus integration implemented by dev team but env variables still missing after a couple years, several thousand a month being paid to Datadog but nothing being done with the data nor with the dog.

On startups it's surprisingly different, IME. But as soon as you "elect" a group to be administrator of a certain tool or some resource needed by those tools, you're doomed.


I think this is the reason in fewer 0.01% of cases. Languages are not in the top 10 things that make being an open source maintainer difficult.


You’d be surprised at how many hardware companies think this is a good idea!

I’m the founder and CEO of a company called Memfault, we make observability SaaS for hardware companies.

I constantly get asked if we could just offer a remote access solution. Many of our competitors do! But we think it’s (a) a huge security liability and (b) too ripe for abuse.

But fundamentally consumers do not care, and until that changes you can expect any embedded Linux device to have this kind of backdoor (they do more often than not).


I know it's hard, but keep fighting the good fight. I have huge respect for companies that stand by their principles harder than their revenue.


Because you won't find anyone competent to take on the terrible shit-shoveling gig that is being the CEO for an equal share in the business.


I think in an employee owned model the CEO is less visible and a different role, that role is then incentivized to actually drive the business instead of creating hype in the market to ensure valuation for investors/stock markets.

The value of an employee owned business is that you can vote the CEO out if they’re not working in the best interests.


With all due respect, I don't think you know what a CEO does day to day. Investor relations and PR is ~5% of the job at an early stage startup.


Frankly what the CEO actually does day-to-day doesn’t matter relative to a startup or a publicly traded tech company, or anything in between in the scope of ownership and organized employee value.

I’ve watched a company in deep debt spiral out of control because the CEO didn’t understand the business and let bottom up management be how the company runs. The board that also didn’t understand the business just let 3 rounds of layoffs occur before forcing the CEO out. When layoffs come, if it is going to be the employees who pay the price, they should have a mechanism to push the pilot out of the seat before it costs them.


This is a glib, but important insight. If the split between founders and early employees is fundamentally off, then we should see many more early employee types start companies and take the other side of that bargain. In fact, they do not!


To be clear it was marketed as e-paper (e-ink is a trademark). Reflective LCD falls under that category: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_paper

Disclaimer: former Pebble employee


This was a tip my hatn excellent to you


This may be the first widely reported deadly hack of a connected device. Wild times we live in.


That idea that only deep tech opportunities are left is false and IMO completely undermines the OP.

Our batch (W19) has produced several great software companies that are growing incredibly fast, you just haven't heard of them ... yet!


If you haven't heard of a company 5 years after inception, it's not a great look



First: you've heard of at least one of these companies.

Second: some of them are very well known in their vertical, just not yet household names.

Third: you have no idea what you're talking about. E.g. Hubspot was founded in 2006, I guarantee nobody here who isn't a marketer had heard of them in 2011.


We're on HN and talking about YC companies. If they are unknown to a lot of us that's a bad sign.

Get of your high horse.


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