Google Research recently committed to help implementing it, in Rust, for inclusion in Firefox.
https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/pull/1064: “the team at Google has agreed to apply their subject matter expertise to build a safe, performant, compact, and compatible JPEG-XL decoder in Rust, and integrate this decoder into Firefox. If they successfully contribute an implementation that satisfies these properties and meets our normal production requirements, we would ship it.”
> One stupid thing is paste doesn’t work in the terminal… seriously? Why can’t I ctrl-v after ctrl-c from web browser?
Going from Mac to Linux, I felt that the shortcuts in Mac were worse.
On Linux, you don't have to reach for a totally different key to copy/paste from the terminal. You just add Shift to the Ctrl +V and Ctrl+ C. On Mac, it's a totally different button to exit CLI programs and do other things.
All other shortcuts are also a bit better on Linux. Ctrl + J for downloads in Chromium. Ctrl+ H for history. Ctrl + Tab to move through tabs. Ctrl + T for new tab. On Mac, they're very inconsistent.
> Going from Mac to Linux, I felt that the shortcuts in Mac were worse.
They're so much better on Mac, that it's not even a comparison. Mac shortcuts feel like they're designed by someone who actually types on a keyboard. Using COMMAND, that is naturally mapped by a thumb, is so much better than reaching for CTRL. And don't even get me started on idiotic Windows machines having CTRL as left most button that obliterates your pinky and instantly requires remapping some other key, like CAPSLOCK.
> All other shortcuts are also a bit better on Linux. Ctrl + J for downloads in Chromium. Ctrl+ H for history. Ctrl + Tab to move through tabs. Ctrl + T for new tab. On Mac, they're very inconsistent.
Mac shortcuts are literally consistent across all applications, unlike Linux.
I just gave you real examples of how they're so inconsistent and difficult on Mac.
Linux uses Ctrl for most things, you don't even need to lift the finger up away from Ctrl for most shortcuts. Super key is only used for OS shortcuts. Linux is way more consistent in its application.
On Mac, the distinction between Ctrl, Option and Cmd is arbitrary.
Command is the key on Mac, option adds hidden capabilities and Control was added for whoever wanted to use it. For OS shortcuts I don’t even know if I ever use Control, only Vim.
And it is used for OS shortcuts, which also includes most used functions like switching windows and copy pasting, unlike Windows and Linux.
And just because they’re more “consistent” in your head, even though they’re not, it doesn’t make them any less awful. Using Command key for every OS shortcut is far superior than using mix of Control and Option.
Just one most obvious example: copy and paste between windows. CMD C, CMD TAB, CMD V. Who’s more consistent now?
I'm not sure why you're agitated. You and I and simply stating opinions and preferences.
> I can use the same set of shortcuts across all applications on Mac, such as copy paste as was pointed out earlier, or exit, or preferences, etc.
Literally the same with Linux. There's no difference.
> And just because they’re more “consistent” in your head, even though they’re not, it doesn’t make them any less awful. Using Command key for every OS shortcut is far superior than using mix of Control and Option.
Okay, let's see:
- New Tab: Cmd + T vs Ctrl + T
- Switch Tabs: Ctrl + Tab (Can't use Cmd + Tab) vs Ctrl + Tab
- History in browser: Cmd + Y vs Ctrl + H (H is for History)
- Downloads Page: Cmd + Shift + J vs Ctrl + J
- Swift through words: Opt + Left/Right vs Ctrl + Left/Right
You see how consistent Linux is with Ctrl? You don't need to use other keys most of the time. Everything's fixed. Terminal is literally the only app where the difference comes up because Ctrl + C is used for SIGINT, thats literally it!
Inconsistency is not an issue for those who have learned the shortcuts. Everybody has trouble adapting to new keyboard shortcuts so that's not the main issue. Mac objectively uses way more keys in shortcuts compared to Linux which is what makes it worse.
> Just one most obvious example: copy and paste between windows.
Always the same, Ctrl + C/V. Except for the terminal because Ctrl + C is used for SIGINT, even on Mac. So instead of having to invent a whole new key for copy/paste in terminal, Linux uses an extra Shift, which imo is much better changing the whole key.
Let's not talk about Cmd + Tab, Alt + Tab on Linux is much better than Cmd + Tab + Cmd + `. I use the Alt Tab app on Mac too, it's way better than the default, unless of course one likes to use more keys to switch between windows for no reason.
I use both Mac and Linux for work. It's not me who has issues. I'm able to work on both just fine. I just mentioned why I think Linux is better, because the keys are consistent within the Linux + Windows world and they're much easier to learn. Of course you're gonna have to adjust to the difference when switching to Linux, is that even something to be angry about?
If I were hiring, I'd give special preference to Mac and Linux users.
Not because you can't learn Linux on Windows but because using Linux is usually a sign that the person is not afraid of a little discomfort, not afraid to learn more about the computer they use and willing to accept change and even willing to try new things.
Linux represents a different mindset than Windows and for me, it's very easy to tell who loves what he does and who doesn't, who loves a challenge and who doesn't, who can get stuff done in any situation and who doesn't. All because I used to be a Windows user and I can easily compare the mindset that went into justifying sticking to a difficult OS.
Thank goodness you aren't hiring, since you apparently believe that you can judge a person's abilities based on OS preference. God help your org if they decide to grant you more responsibility.
I've been using Brave Search for years and it's fantastic. I haven't used Google since and it supports Bangs! like DDG. It's free so you can give it a try.
I really liked Brave Search but unfortunately it started giving me captchas on every search after 11 pm Pacific or so for some (unknown) reason. They’re not even image captchas, you just click the button and wait 15-20 seconds which is pretty inconvenient.
May I ask when you switched away from Brave Search? We've been doing work to reduce the amount of captchas a few months ago and we stopped getting feedback about this issue at that point. If it's still happening, it's something we will look into again.
Excellent browser. One issue with it though, when I close the browser I am expecting my history to be deleted as I set it up that way, but it turns out I have to manually close every tab before closing the browser for it to actually delete the history and that seems like a mistake. Otherwise, great browser. Though you should rip out all the Google stuff from it, literally every single thing that connects or touches that pos company.
Sampson here, from Developer Relations at Brave. Would you mind telling me a bit more about how you have Brave configured, so that I can make sure local testing and troubleshooting on my end reflects your scenario accurately? Any input would be greatly appreciated.
You are presumably using the "Clear on Exit" feature, located within settings at brave://settings/clearBrowserData. When you select the "On Exit" tab of that view, which options do you have selected? Do you find that none of the data types are cleared when you close the browser (via › Exit), or only some of them are cleared?
I'm also curious about the state of two options within brave://settings/system, namely "Close window when closing last tab," and "Warn me before closing window with multiple tabs". Are both of these enabled?
It can be both, we have people who look at community feedback on a daily basis, but engineers also tend to be out there on HN and Reddit, etc. and today it was the case that I saw the comment and could jump in straight away.
Be real. You’re obviously not going to be able to find a source for that. I think the facts stated above (about the lack of a visible human footprint for this company) easily raise a presumption that something is not right.
