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They answered elsewhere in the thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46164485

Time to move? :P

Why?

Put yourself in their place for a minute. There's a thousand to-dos, including this Bluetooth pass-through feature. If you try to get around to all of them, you need to hire more people, either telling them up front that you won't be able to pay their salary or just not mentioning that until after they've done the work. Or you need to find more paying customers, but you're already trying to do that. Every minute spent on that also is a minute lost on making a better product. How to allocate the available time optimally? It's not as simple as "they're ignoring the community completely".

Saying that this is not a product for you because there's other devices out there without this problem: entirely fair, but that's not the same thing


How is Bluetooth used in public transport? I don't think I've ever seen that so I'm curious what nifty solution this is. Are you meant to check in via Bluetooth so you can't have multiple people use the same subscription in different trains or so? Does it open station gates? Give you real-time travel information without needing internet or them having to put up fragile displays at rural stops?

That website is asking for consent for allegedly anonymous statistics ("With your consent, we use cookies for anonymized statistics"). One doesn't need to ask for consent when you're not collecting personal data...

The only possible button is agree, but to read what you're agreeing to, you need to click agree first because this overlay also spawns on the privacy policy page that's linked from the cookie wall

The privacy information is also only available in German

10/10 privacy drive


My banks have always provided hardware 2FA. I think it used to be free and was surprised that I had to pay for the latest one, but I've had the previous one since my parents paid for everything so idk if that was maybe always the case

I've always done banking from the browser since I got access to any banking at all (probably when I was 16, ~15 years ago). Not sure what I'm supposed to be missing out on with these apps that don't work on many user-controlled devices (be it Linux-based or rooted Android). Log in with chip+pin for my Dutch bank (primary account), and a perplexing combination of high-entropy username, password, 2 randomly asked digits of a 5-digit PIN, a color code that you scan with the hardware device which needs another 5-digit PIN, and then typing over the 8-digit confirmation code. German efficiency! But I barely use that account anyway


The case argument really solves everything whenever someone brings up poor choices

- Annoying glass back that scratches immediately and slides out of your hand- "just put a case on it"

- Undersized battery that won't last a day - "you can buy a case with a battery"

- The phone wobbles when you lay it on a desk or nightstand - "most people use a case anyway"

If we're meant to make our phones twice as thick, why not sell it in that form factor? Stuff that extra battery in there, make the backside grippy, and have it be able to lay down without being like a 4-legged chair where 1 leg is longer

I've never used a case on any phone. They're big enough as it is (in the xy dimensions). I did try it out of necessity when needing 2 phones in 1 pocket (work and private phone) for a week during a work trip. It's doable but just why


Would you like this phone to run your own apps?

If you spend development time on the ecosystem, I could maybe pay your voucher (the 99€ downpayment part), then you can get the hardware on release at the discounted price they offer for backers

Edit: I'll probably miss any replies here. Email me on (rot13) wbyyn99@ytzf.ay. I'm offering this because imo it's important to have an alternative ecosystem to Android, considering the developments in the last year where it's becoming more like iOS. Other developers who are short on funds who read this should also feel free to reach out, though I'm not some super wealthy investor I can see about what I can do


Jolla is saying they'll try to make it work on as many frequencies as possible for global support. I don't know the brand and how seriously to take that but usually English-speaking countries support are among the top priorities

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