?? I got very confused from the start of this article because it is clear that K...

amingilani · 2025-12-03T03:27:05 1764732425

> it is clear that Kohler is one end of the communication

That’s not end-to-end encryption. By that logic HN, and any other website over HTTPS is E2E encrypted.

richbell · 2025-12-03T03:34:15 1764732855

That is what "end-to-end encryption" has come to mean in marketing. In the same way that every single product is "natural."

BizarroLand · 2025-12-03T19:47:28 1764791248

All natural blends of hydroxyapatite, sodium laureth sulfate, and methylpropanediol, just like grandma used to make

amelius · 2025-12-03T10:29:23 1764757763

Is HTTPS really always E2EE?

I was under the impression that large companies use proxies so they can do deep packet inspection.

PS: you are right of course.

g-b-r · 2025-12-03T03:41:22 1764733282

No, they're just trying to mislead their clients